The New York Times talked turkey Wednesday. And shocked a lot of people judging by my e-mails. No, they weren't getting honest about the 'reporting' of Dexter Filkins. This was in the food section and, judging by the e-mails, people really only focused on D7.
I really think D7 can be compared to Dexy's go-go, rah-rah, feel good reporting when he was living it up in the Green Zone and failing to provide readers with actual facts (but didn't the military love him for being their personal puppet?). Why is that?
Marian Burros has left many with a false impression, just like Dexy did. While Dexy took an alarming (and appalling situation) and disguised it, Burros takes a fairly normal experience and turns it into a raging inferno.
First-time and learning cooks had high hopes for Thanksgiving and then they read Burros and everything collapsed quicker than a first time souffle. Burros used to be a writer I found useful but the paper's Dining In section really doesn't serve cooks these days. It's lively, it's attention getting, it's just not very useful.
Burros, even just a few years back, wouldn't have come off like such a defeatist in print. But she does and I'm sure the crowd that reads the Dining In section to feel superior was quite pleased with her alarmist commentary. I'm sure their heads rose a little higher, so high they may have gotten nose bleeds.
For those of you who wrote in, forget everything she wrote. You're not creating a turkey for a photo shoot, you're cooking it to be eaten. Phoebe wondered if she needed to buy two turkeys to have one on hand as a back up turkey? No.
Cooking is fun. That's something that the Dining In section too often forgets (Burros wasn't always that way). Anytime that it's not, you need to figure out whether the problem is you or the recipe (or advice).
Everyone of you can make cook a fine turkey, first time or not. We're going to start with a recipe. This is from page 144 of Jane Fonda's Cooking for Healthy Living. Long before the book came out in 1996, I was cooking turkeys with no problems. This recipe took it to another level and I'll talk about why after the recipe. For now, if you're one of the people alarmed by the Dining In section and, like Beverely wrote, thinking, "Well, I guess I'll do a ham" or, as Nicole wrote, wondering if you should just buy an already cooked bird, read the recipe and stop worrying.
1 turkey, about 10 lb (5 kg)
1/2 tablespoon salt
1/2 tablespoon ground black pepper
2 tablespoons margarine, melted
2 tablespoons chopped fresh rosemary
2 tablespoons chopped fresh thyme
2 tart apples, such as Granny Smith or pippin, cored and sliced
1 onion sliced
Preheat an over to 450 degrees F (230 degrees C). Coat the rack of a large roasting pan with nonstick cooking spray. Remove the giblets, heart, liver and neck from inside the turkey and reserve for another use.
Rinse the bird inside and out, pat dry and sprinkle inside and out with the salt and pepper. Place the turkey, breast side up, on the rack in the pan.
In a small bowl, combine the margarine, rosemary and thyme. Brush the turkey with the herb mixture. Insert a meat thermometer deep into the thickest part of the thigh, next to the body but not touching the bone. Spread the apple and onion slices around the bird.
Place the turkey in the oven and immediately reduce the temperature to 350 degrees F (180 degress C). Roast, basting every 15 minutes with pan drippings, until the thermometer registers 175 degrees F (75 degrees C) and a drumstick moves easily in the joint, about 3 hours and 20 minutes.
Transfer to a platter and discard the onion and apples cover the turkey with foil and let rest for 10-15 minutes. Remove the skin, carve and serve. One servince is 6 ox (185 g).
What gives this turkey it's special taste? I think it's the apples and oranges. I had the book open on the table this morning and Elaine and Rebecca both said, "Talk C.I." I called C.I. and was told please do (after being asked why the people e-mailing me were alarmed about cooking a turkey).
This is a story of Elaine and C.I. mainly. All three met right before college. Elaine knew C.I. through her (Elaine's) brother. Rebecca met C.I. through Elaine. The three ended up living together throughout college. Elaine's parents died when she was very young (I believe she had just turned 12, her brother was 18) and she and her brother more or less raised themselves. Money wasn't a concern because their parents had planned ahead and because the family was well off. Her brother (whose name I don't intend to put in so if I do by accident, I'll be removing it) went to college and went into banking. He was doing investments which really wasn't his interest but it kept him close by. Two months before Elaine was to start college, he was offered the dream job he always wanted but it meant moving to Europe. He turned it down and Elaine found out about from one of his friends. He'd turned it down because they really were all they had. She told him to take the job, that she'd be fine and, since she was starting college, not even living close by.
That worked out very well. He was able to retire very early, so it worked out very, very well. But what Elaine hadn't thought about was the holidays especially something as short as Thanksgiving which doesn't provide the lengthy break that Christmas does. Rebecca was getting ready to go home for Thanksgiving (and cutting out early) when they learned Elaine had no where to go. Rebecca emphasizes it was "discovered" because Elaine hadn't said a word. Elaine jokes that the story always makes her sound like the child in a pleasant custody battle -- "No, you take her!"
C.I. bailed on the notion of a family get together and C.I. and Elaine celebrated Thanksgiving together which they've done "more years than I can count" ever since according to Elaine. Though Elaine maintained this morning, as she usually does, that she's not a cook, the truth is she can cook any dessert. The fanciest French dessert in the world is no problem for her even if she's never cooked it before. So they decided, Elaine and C.I., they'd split up the tasks and also to check and see if anyone else was not going home for the holiday?
They ended up with a crowd throughout college. The first Thanksgiving was the first time C.I. had ever cooked a turkey (Elaine says, first time anything was cooked for the most part). Everything that could go wrong did. They had an electric stove that went out at one point. The heating coils were too low, they finally decided and ended up rigging it from below by propping it up on a square pan and then the oven came back to life. This was in the middle of cooking the turkey. At another point, while they were attempting to set the table and clean the place up, C.I. forgot to check the turkey for a lengthy period. When they were back in the kitchen, the turkey was wrinkled. It was saved.
That's the point of the story, turkey's can be saved. It turned out to be a very juicy turkey and a very tasty one. That was due to rescuing it by constant basing and the use of many sticks of butter and chicken stock. C.I. was aware that, growing up, the family's cook had used apples. No idea why. But C.I. ended up using apples, onions and everything. They had prepared celery appetizers and the remains of the stalk and the leafy part went into the pan holding the turkey.
Elaine, who was leafing through a cookbook (which in those days were rarely simple), wondered if spices weren't needed?
The bird had been salted, that was all the spice that was used. It still is when C.I. fixes a turkey today. By following the directions for the amount of time to cook the bird and making the rest up ("and a lot of luck," C.I. says), a recipe was stumbled upon that's still used today.
The 'recipe' results in panic to anyone who peaks in the oven while the turkey's being cooked as various things are scattered around in the pan. Elaine says the stuff is 'chopped' very loosely because, the first time, when they returned to the kitchen and found a wrinkled bird in the oven, it was "a rescue mission" and C.I. was hollering for celery "NOW!" so she was just splitting stalks with her hands and handing it to C.I. who was tossing it around the bird. When it's done cooking, you put the bird and only the bird on a platter. The remains of the onions, et al, get tossed in the trash. The dressing isn't cooked in the bird. That's due to the fact that the sole cookbook Elaine had contained a recipe for cooking dressing in a pan. Since she had a recipe for that, Elaine made that her task.
The only thing that is used is a few spoonfuls are put into giblet gravy. This being their first time cooking a Thanksgiving meal, they realized they hadn't planned for everything. They had a turkey, they had dressing, they had mashed potatoes, a vegetable dish, rolls, two pies and brownies. But late into the morning, they realized they didn't have a gravy.
C.I. will tell you, and has told me many times, "I can't fry worth s**t." Outside of an egg, C.I.'s never been able to master frying. To make gravy from scratch required more than C.I. could handle so Elaine attempted to make some in a skillet. Elaine remembers it as watery with what looked like globs of goo. An early guest wasn't able to go home to Tennessee and she spoke of her mother's giblet gravy. She didn't know how it was made but C.I. was saying, "Okay, I can do this." (Elaine says that was the mantra throughout the first two Thanksgivings.)
You boil the neck, heart and livers (contained in the packet inside the bird). Then the neck, heart and livers are removed. You slice the latter two and strip the neck of meat. Flour, butter and some spoonfuls of pan drippings (from the bird) are added along with a little milk and the meat (neck, heart and liver). When the guest from Tennessee popped back into the kitchen, she exclaimed, "Oh, you've made country gravy!" They didn't know what C.I. had made, but it tasted good and everyone enjoyed it.
The point to all of this is that it's not gene-splicing. Two novice cooks (Elaine's reading over my shoulder and says "novice cooks" is far too generous) prepared a Thanksgiving meal themselves, first time out, and everyone enjoyed it.
Baros is making Thanksgiving much harder than it is. Elaine is now dating my son Mike so she's spending Thanksgiving with us this year. So Jess' parents will be handling the dressing duties at C.I.'s but, if Elaine were having Thanksgiving with C.I. this year, "I'd still be in charge of the dressing and still be using the same, basic recipe with modifications I've made over the years."
That's what cooking is. You try your best, you learn each time.
C.I. still cooks the bird the same way (whether it's fresh or frozen) and states, "I honestly don't understand what the fuss is. It's not that hard. Especially if you don't know what you're doing."
So the point of this story is to calm the thirty-four people who read Barros this week and immediately decided they couldn't cook a turkey now. You can.
On the third Thanksgiving, Rebecca's family were visiting her father's side of the family which required traveling and Rebecca wasn't in the mood. (Elaine also points out, though Rebecca swears she doesn't remember this, that Rebecca had a date for the night following Thanksgiving that she didn't want to miss with a boyfriend whom she didn't trust.) Rebecca was in charge of the appetizers but otherwise out of the kitchen for most of the day. When the turkey was pulled out of the oven, her attitude was, "What the hell is that?"
The chunks of apples, et al in the pan "frightened me." Then the turkey was transferred to a serving platter and "I had never seen a more golden turkey. I ran out of the kitchen to grab my camera because you really did need to take a picture of it."
What you need, according to C.I., to save any mishap is cans of stock and butter. The most C.I. has ever used is four cans "so have it on hand, even if you only end up using one can." I heard the story last year when Elaine spent Christmas with us and had used butter but never thought to use chicken stock. I now pour two cans over the top of the turkey and let it stream down the bird in the last two hours of cooking. (One in the second to last hour, the second at the start of the last hour.)
You'll have mishaps. The third Thanksgiving, Rebecca's first, contained a mishap that C.I. still doesn't know about but Rebecca says, "It's been years, and no one noticed." C.I. was showering and asked Rebecca to be sure to stir the gravy. "Which I did," she points out.
Rebecca is a smoker and she was smoking while stirring. An ash from her cigarette fell into the gravy. Elaine gasped and they both wondered who was going to tell C.I.? Rebecca said, "We're not saying a word." Rebecca stirred furiously and added a lot of pepper. No one knew. No one complained. Elaine says she didn't have any gravy that year and Rebecca's response to that, this morning in my kitchen, is one word: "Prude."
Rebecca swears that it tasted fine. She said to share that story because mishaps happen and you just make do. Though I've never served a guest a dish seasoned with ash, I have had spice mishaps. I'm usually rushing and forget that I've taken the top of a spice, go to sprinkle some and end up dumping the contents in. After you remove what you can, you've got two choices, water or milk, depending on the dish. You have to dilute a spice mishap.
But you learn each time and you learn to adapt. Your attitude, if this is the first time you're trying something out (especially a cooked Thanksgiving dinner that you're cooking) should be, this is going to be fun. If it's not fun, you've destroyed Thanksgiving.
For yourself absolutely because you'll be so stressed out throughout the cooking (and probably while people first starting eating) but also for everyone else. The holidays often bring their own sources of tension and you don't need to add anymore.
Check your ovens with a thermoter to be sure they are the degrees inside that the dial shows. Stock up on chicken stock and butter. And grab onto Kat's motto, "It is what it is." You'll be fine. Instead of being an alarmist at Christmas, or next Thanksgiving, the New York Times would better serve readers by attempting to alert them to think on their feet and not scaring them but the Dining In section is less and less about cooking.
On Thursday, the news came down that the US military was going to court-martial Lt. Ehren Watada. Watada signed up in 2003 and was promoted fairly quickly because of his performance on the job. When he learned he would be going to Iraq, he was advised by his superiors to study up on the war so that he would be informed and able to inform those serving under him. As he studied up, he quickly realized that the war was illegal. In January 2006, he submitted the first of many resignation requests. When that was denied, Lt. Watada had to decide whether to go blindly off to an illegal war or take a stand. On June 22, 2006, he became the first officer to publicly refuse to deploy to Iraq. In August, the military held an Article 32 hearing and the recommendation was a court-martial. Thursday, the military announced that they would be court-martialing Ehren Watada.
I'm not surprised that the military is going through with a court-martial. I am shocked that independent media has not felt this was a story worth covering. Yesterday, Rebecca's "remember the ladies? forgotten at the democracy now round-table" surveyed independent media outlets to find out who was covering it and my son Mike's "Ehren Watada's going to be court-martialed and indymedia doesn't bother to tell you" followed up on that last night. I've checked this morning and nothing's changed at those who could update today.
Now Kyle Snyder, Ivan Brobeck and Joshua Key should all be in the independent news headlines this week. They haven't been. Mark Wilkerson is an unknown to many people. That's true of the majority of war resisters. What we do know tends to come from the mainstream media, not our independent media. With Ehren Watada, there actually was a great deal of coverage, early on, about him in independent media. Possibly, his being an officer gave the nervous-nellies of our independent press the cover they needed to hide behind?
This week, I read an e-mail from a family member of a war resister. (C.I. noted this in Thursday's "Iraq snapshot.") It brought home even more how important the stands against the war are, how they need to be covered and how many people are effected.
Today is Veteran's Day, formerly Armistice Day. It is especially shameful, as various link-fest sites do their headlines, often noting today, that they have nothing on the fact that Watada will be court-martialed. I think a lot of people are dabbling. That's not going to end the war. And if, on Veteran's Day, we can't even take the time to note the ones in the service who are saying no to war, that's a pretty sad statement about today's independent media.
Here's C.I.'s "Iraq snapshot" for Friday with lots of information, links and the news that Bob Watada, father of Ehren, has several events in NYC today:
Friday, November 10th. Chaos and violence continue in Iraq, the US military announces they will court-martial Lt. Ehren Watada, the US military also announces the death of five more US troops in Iraq, John Howard makes Australians and the rest of the world glad that there's only one of him, and David Swanson explains what really happened in DC.Starting with news on US war resister Ehren Watada. In June, Watada went public with his refusal to deploy to Iraq because the war is illegal and deploying would subject both himself and those serving under him to war crimes. In standing up, Watada became the first US commissioned officer to publicly refuse to serve in the illegal war. On August 17th, Article 32 hearing was held. [For details on Ann Wright's testimony, click here, Dennis Halliday click here, and here for Francis A. Boyle.] Following the hearing on the 17th, the US military announced August 24th that the presiding officer of the hearing, Lt. Colonel Mark Keith, had made a recommendation, court-martial. Yesterday, The KPFA Evening News reported that the US military had decided to court-martial Watada. The Seattle Post-Intelligencer reports that "Lt. Gen. James Dubik, agreed with the recommended charges of missing a military movement and conduct unbecoming an officer." Gregg Kakesako (Honolulu Star-Bulletin) reports that conviction during the court-martial ("held next year") could result in "six years in jail and a dishonorable discharge." Honolulu's KITV spoke with Eric Seitz, attorney for Watada, who stated, "Unfortunately the army does want to make a martyr out of him. They have told us they will not enter into any agreement that doesn't include at least a year of incarceration, and that's just simply something we are unable to agree to." Rod Ohira (Honolulu Advertiser) notes the following statements by Watada after learning of the recommendation to court-martial him:"I feel the referral of the charges was not unexpected and at this time, I'm moving forward as I always have with resilience and fortitude to face the challenges ahead. . . . I think as the recent elections show more and more Americans are opening their eyes, but we aren't there yet. It is my hope that actions such as my own continue to call for the truth behind the fundamental illegality and immorality of those who perpetrated this war."
Coverage of war resisters in the US independent media has been embarrassing and shameful. Rebecca checks in on several independent outlets only to find that none have anything on Watada this morning. He appears to getting the full-Brobeck from independent media. (CBS notes Watada here.) War resister Ivan Brobeck returned to the US from Canada to turn himself in Tuesday and he didn't even make the indy headlines. (Nora Barrows Friedman did interview him on Monday's Flashpoints.) It's not cutting it. Not for Brobeck, not for Kyle Snyder who's also been ignored after returning to the US and, on October 31st, turning himself in at Fort Knox only to self-check out again after discovering the military had lied yet again. Not for Joshua Key who learned that the Canadian government was denying him refugee status.
A list of war resisters within the military would include Watada, Key, Snyder, and Brobeck. It would also include many other names such as Darrell Anderson, Ricky Clousing, Mark Wilkerson, Camilo Meija, Pablo Paredes, Carl Webb, Stephen Funk, David Sanders, Dan Felushko, Brandon Hughey, Jeremy Hinzman, Corey Glass, Patrick Hart, Clifford Cornell, Agustin Aguayo, Joshua Despain, Katherine Jashinski, and Kevin Benderman. That's just the ones who have gone public. (Over thirty US war resisters are currently in Canada attempting to be legally recognized.) It is a movement and should be covered as such. Ehren Watada's father and step-mother are currently on a speaking tour (tonight they're in NYC) and details on that will be at the end of the snapshot.
Information on war resistance within the military can be found at Center on Conscience & War, The Objector, The G.I. Rights Hotline, and the War Resisters Support Campaign. Courage to Resist offers information on all public war resisters. Appeal for Redress is collecting signatures of active duty service members calling on Congress to bring the troops home -- the petition will be delivered to Congress in January.
Grabbing headlines is Ali al-Shemari. The Iraqi Health minister announced a number for the death toll of Iraqis due to the illegal war. AP notes that he places the death toll at 150,000. The KPFA Evening News pointed out on Thursday that is he was actually basing his 'count' on the United Nations estimate of at least 100 Iraqis dying each day "that calculation would be closer to 130,000." CBS and AP note that he rejects the number of approximately 655,000 in the Lancet Study but thinks his own number is "OK." Sabrina Tavernise (New York Times) calls the number "an off-the-cuff estimate". Puppets can't go off-the-cuff or off-script which may be why AFP is reporting that the estimates being watered down (the Health Ministry is now saying between 100,000 and 150,000).
Meanwhile the US military has announced today "One Marine assigned to Regimental Combat Team 5 died Thursday from wounds sustained due to enemy action while operating in Al Anbar Province" and also "Two 89th Military Police Brigade Soldiers were killed and one Soldier was wounded Thursday after their vehicle was struck by an improvised explosive device at 12:48 p.m. Thursday in west Baghdad." Later in the day would come more announcements. This: "One Marine assigned to Regimental Combat Team 7 died today from non-hostile causes while operating in Al Anbar Province," and this: "One Soldier assigned to the 13th Sustainment Command (Expeditionary) was killed and another wounded Nov. 10 during a combat logistics patrol when their truck was hit by an improvised explosive device west of Hadithah" for a total of five deaths announced today. ICCC currently lists 24 as the number of US troop deaths in Iraq for the month, thus far (2842 since the start of the illegal war). As the numbers continue to climb, Michael Luo and Michael Wilson (New York Times) report that funerals have become so common for the First Battalion, 22nd Infantry in Iraq that planning time for services have been cut from 45 minutes to five minutes.
While the numbers (on all sides) continue to mount, AP notes Donald Rumsfled stated (yesterday), "I will say this -- it is very clear that the major combat operations were an enormous success." Oh White Queen, get someone to help you a-dress quickly. Forgetting the illegal nature of the war for a moment, that's a bit like a drunk driver who plows into a car and kills an entire family stating, "I will say this -- I pulled away from the curb nicely."In some of the reported violence today . . .
Bombings?
AFP reports: "In violence on the ground, a powerful blast killed an Iraqi army colonel and his five bodyguards in the northern town of Tall Afar. Reuters notes it was a car bombing and that 17 people were wounded while, in Kirkuk, a roadside bombing injured two Iraqi soldiers.
Shootings?
Reuters notes that, in Yusufiya, 14 people were kidnapped (by "gunmen") and then found dead and a man was shot dead in Diwaniya. Christopher Bodeen (AP) reports that three family members were shot dead in Baghdad (home invasion).
Corpses?
Reuters reports, "Police fished the body of a woman, bearing signs of torture and bullet wounds, from the Tigris river in Mosul, 390 km (240 miles) north of Baghdad, police said." In addition, Christopher Bodeen (AP) informs that 33 corpses were discovered "in Baghdad and several nearby cities."
In Australia, War Hawk and prime minister John Howard's laughable comments yesterday have resulted in more punch lines. Gillian Bradford observered to Eleanor Hall (ABC's PM) that "Whatever the opinion polls here may say here about Australians' desire to get out of Iraq, the Prime Minister isn't swayed" and he intended to ring Tony Blair up just as soon as he (Howard) finished his cricket match. Give 'em Flair, Howie. AAP reports that: "Prime Minister John Howard should tell George W Bush that he's pulling Australian troops out of Iraq when the two leaders meet next week, Opposition Leader Kim Beazley says. Mr Howard will have lunch with the US president during next week's APEC meeting in Hanoi, Vietnam - their first meeting since Mr Bush's Republican party was thumped in US mid-term elections." Bully Boy gets to Vietnam a lot more today than when he 'served,' doesn't he? Meanwhile Xinhau reports: "Howard said he will commiserate with Bush in person at the APEC meeting in the second half of next week.Howard said he had always accepted that the majority of the Australian public had been against the military commitment to Iraq." Howard 'accepts' the majority opinion, he just doesn't 'respect' it.
In peace news, yesterday's snapshot noted Cindy Sheehan was arrested outside the White House while attempting to deliver a petition (with over 80,000 signatures) calling for the US troops to be brought home. Not quite. David Swanson (Let's Try Democracy) reports she was arrested outside the White House long after the petition: "Late Wednesday afternoon Cindy decided to lead a sit-in right in front of the White House, and then -- finally -- the Park Service arrested her. The Associated Press changed the lede to its article to read as follows: 'Activist Cindy Sheehan was arrested Wednesday as she led about 50 protesters to a White House gate to deliver anti-war petitions.' Not quite accurate. The petitions had been delivered several hours before the arrest. But what the heck, it probably got more editors to pick up the story. Thanks, again, Cindy!" Swasnon outlines the events as being stalled at the gates of the White House when attempting to deliver the petition leading activists to place pages in the fence and to send pages over the fence. Hours later, Cindy Sheehan staged the sit-down.In other news of activists who refuse to hit the snooze button, Wendell Harper reported on yesterday's The KPFA Evening News and today on KPFA's The Morning Show that Medea Benjamin was among those activists participating in a rally outside the soon-to-be House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco office calling for troops home now.
Finally, Ehren Watada's father, Bob Watada, and his step-mother, Rosa Sakanishi, continue their speaking tour to raise awareness on Ehren -- the first commissioned officer to refuse to deploy to Iraq. Due to increased interest there have been some date changes and a full schedule can be found here. Upcoming dates include:
Nov 10, Early PM, New York City, NY., Press ConferenceLocation: UN, 777 United Nations Plaza, First Avenue and E. 44th Street Sponsors: Veterans For Peace Chapters 138 & 34 Contact: Thomas Brinson, 631-889-0203, ltbrin@earthlink.netGeorge McAnanama, gmacan@aol.com
Nov 10, 7:30PM, New York City, NY.Location: St. Paul/St. Andrews Methodist Church -- West End Avenue and West 86th Streets, Sponsors: Veterans For Peace Chapters 138 & 34 Contacts: Thomas Brinson, 631-889-0203, ltbrin@earthlink.net
Nov 11, 10AM-2:30PM, New York City, NY.,Veterans Day Parade Sponsor: Veterans For Peace Chapters 34 & 138, IVAW, MFSO Contacts: Thomas Brinson, 631-889-0203, ltbrin@earthlink.netGeorge McAnanama, gmacan@aol.com
Nov 11, 3-5 PM, Flushing, NY., Location: Macedonia AME Church (718) 353-587037-22 Union St.Sponsors: "United for Lt. Watada"Contact: Gloria Lum 646-824-2710, lumgloria@yahoo.com
Nov 11, 7 PM, New York City, NY., Manhattan, Location: Columbia University, Broadway and W 116 St., Bldg- Mathematics Rm 312 Sponsors: Asian American Alliance, "United for Lt. Watada",Veterans For Peace Chapters 138 & 34 Contact: Gloria Lum 646-824-2710
Nov 12, 11AM-1PM, Providence, RI., Location: Brown University, The John Nicholas Brown Center, 357 Benefit Street at Williams Sponsor: Veterans For Peace National Contact: Naoko Shibusawa, 401-286-1908, Naoko_Shibusawa@brown.edu
Nov 12, 7PM, Rockland County, NY., Location: TBA Sponsor: Rockland Coalition for Peace and Justice, Veterans For Peace National and Veterans For Peace Chapter /Rockland County Contact: Nancy Tsou, LYTHRN@aol.comBarbara Greenhut
Nov 13 , TBA, Ann Arbor, MI, "The Ground Truth" and Bob Watada, Location: University of Michigan, Angel Hall, Auditorium B, Sponsors: Michigan Peace Works http://michiganpeaceworks.org, Contact: Phillis Engelbert, work - 734-761-5922, home - 734-662-0818, cell- 734-660-489, philliseng@yahoo.com
Nov 14, TBA St. Louis, Mo. Location: Friends Meeting House, 1001 Park Avenue Sponsors: Veterans for Peace Chapter 161, 314-754-2651 Contact: Chuc Smith, 314-721-1814, vfpch61@riseup.net
